More on Maynoooth

This is a post by uriah at the Irish Catholics’ Forum (re-posted here with his kind permission):

I was a seminarian in Maynooth from ’93 to ’98 and I can confirm much of what has been said on this thread. Apart from the initial spiritual month, the discipline in the place was quite lax. It became even less disciplined in my second year with the arrival of new deans and their ‘re-branding’ as ‘Directors of Formation’.

Quite a number of seminarians were in relationships with female students, including theology students, and many others were in relationships with men, including other seminarians. There was a real sub-culture of homosexuality within the place. A group of them began adding the letters ‘CSS’ (Confraternity of Saint Sebastian) after their names as a sign that they were homosexual. Apart from in my first year, when one of my fellow ‘Cherubs’ was kicked out over a relationship with a 2nd Divine, the college authorities seemed to tolerate it and turn a blind eye.

With many there, the drinking culture was quite strong, both within and outside the college. One group from my class even got into a pub brawl in the ‘Leinster Arms’ one night with a group of English lads.

A seminarian in the year behind me in ’95 left after a former girlfriend of his turned up and they went for a few drinks and later disappeared into his room and stayed there for two days, after which he left.

Obvious piety was looked on with some suspicion by both staff and students alike. The Saturday night Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament was well attended while I was there, although some did not attend or during the two hours between the beginning and Benediction would disappear elsewhere. Not as many attended the recital of the Rosary, nor was it encouraged. The main form of prayer was the Divine Office, but again, in the higher years, when attendance in the Oratories was not obligatory, many could be hot and miss in reciting it and be quite happy to boast of that.

Having said all that, there were others there that were quite committed, prayerful, and disciplined men.

[…] There was one dean there at the time, that I met years after I left. He had moved on by then and was serving as a PP. He told me that while he was in Maynooth, he had been greatly concerned by the falling numbers of ‘manly’ men that were joining and the increase in effeminacy in the seminary. What he was really referring to is not difficult to understand.


Posted on September 3, 2012, in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. 7 Comments.

  1. Mrs. Rene O'Riordan

    Thanks Shane – it’s all coming out now in the wash!! – Rene

  2. It wasn’t called the pink palace for nothing!

  3. Dear Irish friends and fellow Catholics: What Uriah says should be proof enough of what I have been saying for the last 40 years. I’ll leave it in Spanish so you can practice your translation skills from Spanish into Irish (I understand Irish don’t write English).

    ” Lucifer tomó posesión de la Iglesia como cosa suya cuando Angelo Roncalli (Juan XXIII) lo invitó a presidir las sesiones del Concilio Vaticano II. Desde entonces, añoro con más fuerza a nuestra Iglesia de los tiempos de Pío XII, cuando ella era Una, Santa, Católica, Apostólica y Romana, porque -como lo previno el Apocalipsis- ahora se convirtió en Montiniana, Conciliar 2, Ecuménica, Apóstata, Masónica, Luterana, Anglicana, Judía y Pagana. ¡Apocalipsis XVII y XVIII cumplido!”

  4. Yes, someone or all of our Bishops have a lot to answer for. I also heard more or less the same thing from at least 12 Seminarians over the last 8 years. I hope that the quality of the Theology being thought has improved. I also pray the Visitators from Rome had some desired effect.

  5. corruption of the best is the worst. Ireland sent priests and Catholic lay people to Canada, including my grandfather, and they built the Church here. Like North Africa, God picks up and leaves when He will. Ireland has committed suicide.

  6. I was a seminarian for seven years. I think the prevalence of improper behaviour is grossly over stated.

  7. great post.

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