Yet another prominent dissident Irish priest censured (Open Thread)

Wow this is quite a trend. From BBC News:

Media priest Fr Brian D’Arcy censured by Vatican

Fr Brian D'Arcy
Disciplined: Fr Brian D’Arcy

Father Brian D’Arcy, one of Ireland’s best known priests, has been censured by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in the Vatican, according to the Tablet newspaper.

Fr D’Arcy, a broadcaster and newspaper columnist, is making no comment.

It is understood that his column is now run past a church censor, though none has been changed as a result.

The disciplining of Fr D’Arcy brings the number of Irish priests silenced by Rome to six.

The action against the priest was taken by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) last year after an anonymous complaint.

Fr D’Arcy has spoken out against mandatory celibacy for priests, church teaching on contraception and has been a vocal critic of the handling of clerical sexual abuse. In the wake of the Murphy Report into clerical abuse in the Archdiocese of Dublin Fr D’Arcy called for reformation of church structures and accused the Holy See of using legal procedures to shield itself from criticism over its handling of abuse.

The action came after Fr Ottaviano D’Egidio, the Passionist Superior General, was summoned by Cardinal William Levada, Prefect of the CDF, 14 months ago.

“Some time ago the CDF was in touch with our General about some of Brian’s views and since then Brian has been co-operating to ensure that he can continue to make a contribution to the religious journalism that he is involved in,” Fr Pat Duffy, the Irish provincial of the Passionists told the Tablet.


Posted on April 26, 2012, in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. 51 Comments.

  1. tellingitasitis

    About time. The ACP have misled ordinary Catholics for too long and now they are getting their just desserts. Great detective work, Shane. 🙂

  2. About time. The ACP have misled ordinary Catholics for too long and now they are getting their just desserts.

  3. It’s as if the Pope just woke up and realised he was Pope! Deo Gratias!

  4. It’s as if the Pope just woke up and realised he was Pope! Deo Gratias!

  5. interesting … Fr Brian was, I understand, the main role model for Dermot Morgan’s (of Fr Ted fame) character ‘Fr Trendy’ back in the early 80’s. Fr Trendy wore a shiny ‘silk’ black jacket, espoused every kind of liberal cause going, & was naive beyond belief despite thinking he was ‘down’ with the young people and modern culture. He was the ultimate paradody of the modern priest who thought the salvation of the church & society lay with embracing secular culture.

    The sad truth is that Fr Brian/Fr Trendy were very much mistaken. Take contraception … think of all the problems that it was supposed to fix … marriages would be improved, unwanted pregnacies a thing of the past, std’s eradicated, etc. … that’s not how it turned out, is it?

    I feel much sympathy for Fr Brian. I think he is a good man who was trying to do good in the world … but where was the discipline from those set over him who should have reigned him in when what he said went against Church doctrine in the early days? Why for so many years was he not kept on track. I am glad that something is being done now & happy that Fr Brian seems to have no problem with co-operating with the restrictions placed on him. But it makes one wonder why those who had authority for so many years were apparantly afraid to use it.

    • “(Fr Brian is) is a good man who was trying to do good in the world …”

      There are plenty of good men trying to do good in the world – it is ridiculous that Catholic priests think that is their vocation. Little wonder seminaries are closing down all over the place – we don’t even have one left in Scotland.

  6. Ad mejorem Dei gloriam!
    Six down, 850 more to go…. shoot the generals the rest will disperse

  7. There was a report in the Irish Examiner last week that the so called Assosciation of Catholic Priests are going to hold a protest against the censuring of their colleagues outside the Papal Nuncio in dublin on this Sunday.If Im not mistaken this group of hippie priests are holding their first annual gathering, not sure where,sometime in May.Isnt it a pity that concerned faithful Catholics could not organise a silent protest outside their venue to express our disgust at the massive damage they have done to the Catholic Church in this Country.

    • That’s a terrific idea, padraig. I’ve forwarded the link to your post to readers of Catholic Truth in Ireland in the hope that they will take it up. If I were free to travel, I’d go over myself!

    • Yes, a protest against the ACP is a great idea. Ask all the Irish blogs to suggest it – Fr John Hogan, Fr Gabriel Burke, Donum Vitae, etc. Maybe the Legion of Mary or Ireland Stand Up or some other lay Catholic group could organise it

  8. Well said catholictruth

    We need to hear more talk about the salvation of immortal souls. After four decades of New Sprintime and anarchy the flock are scattered all over the hillside, easy pickings for the wolves.

    Is it too much to hope that the Oath against Modernism will be revived? That would clarify the sitiuation greatly.

    • Leo Clear,

      If the Oath Against Modernism were re-introduced, there would be outright schism – so let’s hope and pray that the OAM is re-introduced soon and we can get it over with!

      • Wonderful to see you on here Ms. CT! Shane runs one of the best blogs and is at large being rewarded with a signficant readership.

      • You are too kind 🙂

      • catholictruth

        Thank you for your welcome. Yes, Shane certainly runs an excellent blog and I’m delighted that he is getting lots of traffic. Well deserved. I’ve sometimes neglected our own blog to comment here, so he gets ten out of ten from moi!

        God bless Shane!

  9. I agree, catholictruth

    Let’s remember the words of a truly great shepherd, Saint Pope Pius X

    “The partisans of error are to be sought not only among the Church’s open enemies; but what is to be most dreaded and deplored, in her very bosom, and are the more mischievous the less they keep in the open.” – Pascendi Dominici Gregis, p.2

  10. There are at least two inaccuracies in the BBC report. Father Darcy has been neither censured nor silenced. He has been asked to do what those writing in the name of the Church were required to do before: let their work be approved by an officially appointed censor. Change the word ‘censor’ to ‘editor’ and ask if there’a any real difference. Recently Shane posted that he had edited one comment to protect himself from possible litigation. Every major newspaper and broadcasting company has a lawyer to check such things.

    The report indicates that Fr Darcy wasn’t asked to change anything in his columns for the last 14 months.

    Recently on this blog Enda Kenny came in for quite a bit of criticism for inaccurate statements he made in the Dail. I think that we who post comments might learn from this. The BBC report doesn’t mention the Association of Catholic Priests anywhere. I do not know if Father Darcy is a member of the ACP or not. The did publish a recent article of his on 22 April but that doesn’t mean he’s a member.

    Please do not read this comment as an endorsement of the ACP or of any views of Fr Darcy that are not in harmony with the teachings of the Church.

  11. Not through time. Fr Brian is sadly only one of many neo modernist Irish priests. If they were all silenced there might not be too many left in Ireland. Unfortunately as priest celeb he had a very wide audience and thus had the power, as De Tocqueville said of the press, ‘to drop the same thoughts into a [million] minds at the same moment.’ Yet the Irish hierarchy did nothing to counter his dissent. You just have to wonder if they had any hand in his being silenced, or was it rather the persistent work of orthodox, lay Catholics, that finally got through to the Vatican about the state of the Faith in Ireland? In any case, the poisonous stream of modernism is at last being addressed and stemmed and the hope of a real springtime for the Church is now possible.

    • With respect, Brendan Bradley, these words of yours – “Yet the Irish hierarchy did nothing to counter his dissent. You just have to wonder if they had any hand in his being silenced…” – reveal a complete ignorance of the truth of the situation in Ireland as just about everywhere else.

      There is NO WAY the Irish bishops “had a hand” in these silencings. Quite the reverse, it’s because of their negligence that the Vatican has intervened (despite the track record there and still counting, of the dissenters allowed free rein – why they’ve picked Ireland to flex their muscles is a mystery of faith par excellence, but you won’t find me complaining)

      Far from the Irish bishops having a hand in the silencings, it is, as I have said for years now much more likely that these dissenters speak FOR the bishops. They are the mouthpiece of the Bishops. So, e.g. while our Scots bishops gave a terse “welcome” to Summorum Pontificum, a leading light at the seminary (now closed!) wrote a letter for publication in our only national “Catholic” newspaper, explaining that SP did not apply to Scotland where, accoridng to him, we’re all delighted with the new (and getting newer by the minute) Mass. That’s how the hierarchy work, these days. If they HAVE to say something in support of the Vatican publicly, it’s short and not so sweet, quickly followed by a dissenting mouthpiece saying what they REALLY believe.

      So, read the “no comment” which is the only response to date of the Irish bishops to the Vatican silencings, as “no agreement.” No question!

  12. When the recent ‘silencings’ were announced, the one priest I was thinking of was Fr. D’Arcy. Some time back my sister in Ireland sent me some of his articles and I was shocked that he was allowed to advance his views without any correction – either by his Passionist superiors or his bishop. I understand he is well known in the media and have even seen him referred to as the ‘chaplain to the stars’.

    That set off alarm bells for me. As has happened here in the US with some priests who were very ‘popular’ and had large followings, there is a lot of danger in being the darling of the crowd or the media. We’re all human and the adulation of the crowd can be addictive and detrimental. It is easy to fall into telling people what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear.

    The Holy Father, when head of the CDF, was once asked how he dealt with the all the negative press he received. He replied: “If I don’t see that at least once a week I feel I need to examine my conscience”. A salutary lesson for all priests.

  13. In a previous comment I said that Fr D’Arcy – my apologies to him for misspelling his surname there – wasn’t censured. In a story in yesterday’s Irish Independent he himself uses the word ‘censure’. Perhaps the action taken was a censure. But he hasn’t been silenced.

    A year or two ago I heard Fr D’Arcy being interviewed on the radio – I think it was one of the BBC stations – about some current event which I’ve forgotten. The reporter/interviewer referred to ‘the wine’ at Mass. Fr D’Arcy pointed out very clearly that what was being referred to was the Blood of Christ, not wine.

    • That’s interesting. But what would be even more interesting would be this: did Jesus shed His blood “for many” or is everyone saved? I’d love to hear Fr D’Arcy on that one.

      Pope Saint Piux X pointed out this problem with Modernists. On one page they say something completely orthodox, while on the next, they say something that is UNorthodox. Thus do they sow their chaos and confusion.

  14. We here in Australasia are flabbergasted at what is happening to the church in Ireland. 4o years of sexual abuse cover ups, resignations by 6 bishops, now a host of heterodox priests.

  15. Folks, again, my sincere apologies for the delay in approving comments. It it the same problem, unfortunately. Thanks for your patience.

  16. If anyone has not already done so, I recommend going to the “Maynooth Seminary” tag on the right hand sidebar and reading the September 14 posting covering Monsignor Cremin’s warning about the dire situation in Maynooth, issued in November 1978.

    It should be read in full. The following statement is one of the highlights.

    “Is it, perhaps, that the Bishops who did perceive the early ailments and the progressive sickness of our seminary, and who had the will and the courage to try to remedy them, were just not able to prevail against those, maybe only one or two, who gave a bad lead and were supported by others?”

    We haven’t arrived at the present unprecendented crisis by accident.

  17. One thing I find alarming about the reactions of those being called to order by the Vatican – whether it is the Leadership Conference of Women Religious in the US or assorted priests in Ireland – is the shock and surprise on their part that this is occurring. It is alarming because it may mean that they really didn’t realize how far they had strayed or that they don’t believe they have strayed at all. One has the impression of questions such as: “What did I do?” “What was wrong with that?” “What, me???”

    Those are the sorts of reactions parents are used to getting from children of a certain age. But parents are not taken in by the professed ‘ignorance’ of the children. It is a smokescreen designed to project innocence, deflect blame and evoke sympathy.

    But the people in question are not children. Many are highly educated, as the trailing letters after their names are designed to demonstrate. Thus they bear a greater responsibility. Because of their learning they are seen to ‘speak with authority’ and the less informed are swayed by their speech and writings.

    That is the crux of the matter – scandal – the leading astray of others. And compounding this is the inaction of those charged with ensuring soundness of doctrine and teaching the fullness of the Faith. But the perpetrators cannot use as an excuse for their actions: “No one told me” or “No one stopped me”. These are smart people. They should have known.

    One cannot claim ignorance while promoting one’s knowledge and learning.

    • GOR,

      I’ve said this myself over and over – the fact that those USA nuns who accept everything from abortion to “gay” marriage express themselves “stunned” by the Vatican action, really says it all. Either, I thought to myself, since talking to myself brought stares, they truly ARE the blind leading the blind or they’re as devious as the day is long.

      But then I remembered that their ignorance of the truth is the very stuff of the “diabolical disorientation” prophesied by Our Lady at Fatima. These people truly believe that they have the truth and the Church has been wrong all along. That is why it is so crucial that the full text of the Third Secret is revealed (and I believe Pope Benedict really wants to to this) because, as evidenced in this diabolical disorientation that is so obvious to us all, not least through these latest reactions to silencing by the Vatican, the Great Apostasy (foretold in the Third Secret) begins at the top.

  18. Has anyone noticed the prominence of this?Even run on RTE radio 1 news yesterday because he made some comments on the Marian Finucane show that he would not be silenced. Forgive me if I’m wrong but it doesn’t seem to merit that kind of attention

  19. Andrea Tornielli in an article on Vatican quotes something the Holy Father said way back in 1979 – which is very much ad rem in today’s environment of dissent among clergy and theologians:

    “The ecclesial magisterium protects the faith of the ordinary people; of those who do not write books, who do not speak on television and cannot write newspaper editorials: this is its democratic task. It has to give a voice to those who do not have one.”

    “It is not the learned – he said in a homily pronounced in Munich in December 1979 – who determine what is true about the baptismal faith; it is the baptismal faith which determines what is true in scholarly interpretations.

    It is not intellectuals who measure up the ordinary people, but the ordinary people who measure up the intellectuals. Scholarly explanations are not the measure of the profession of the baptismal faith, it is the profession of the baptismal faith, in its naive literality, that is the measure of all theology. The baptised individual, who is in the baptismal faith, does not need to be taught. That individual has been offered the final truth and carries it with them with faith itself…”

    “It should finally also be clear, that saying that someone’s opinion is not in line with the doctrine of the Catholic Church, is not a violation of human rights. Everyone should have the right to be educated and to freely express their own opinion. With the Second Vatican Council, the Church declared itself to be in favour of this and it still is so today.

    But this does not mean that every external opinion should be recognised as Catholic. Each person should be able to express themselves as they wish and as they are able to before their own conscience.

    The Church must be able to tell its faithful which opinions correspond to their faith and which do not. This is its right and duty, in order to ensure that a “yes” remains a “yes” and that “no” remains a “no” and in order to preserve the clarity it owes to its followers and to the world.”

  20. I remember this priest participating in a documentary about “Give Up Yer Auld Sins”. He looked and sounded quite orthodox. He was even complimentary about the “type” of Catholicism inadvertently championed by the cartoon series.

    It is intriguing to discover here that he was being satirised as long as twenty years ago by an Irish comedian. Evidently the satire failed and it reminds me of a chaplain here in England who recently launched a fair trade coffee initiative for his students at the local university. This AFTER five years of incessant ridicule of the practice on Damian Thompson’s Daily Telegraph blog.

    The summit of public humilations for the faith must surely be Cormac Murphy-O’Connor’s first meeting for his clergy following his appointment as Archbishop of Westminster. The venue chosen was Butlins Bognor Regis. A town most famous for being referenced by King George V in his mysterious final words before slipping off this mortal coil: “Bugger Bognor”. That the facility used was a holiday camp served only to confirm the brainlessness of the contemporary church.

    It is to be wondered if any modern clergyman has a scintilla of self-respect left in him.

    • And the show has moved on, as it tends to do with our modern media. The 15 minutes of fame alloted to “poor” Fr. Brian is over. It seems to highlight the age group of the “journalists” who concocted the whole travesty in the first place: still fighting their undergraduate battles of the late 70s-early 80s when guys like him (and he wanted so much to be one of the boys with his “Little bit of religion” in the Sunday World) still seemed relevant.

      I asked my 23-year-old PhD student niece about it over the weekend. She had no idea what I was asking her about. A dismissive sneer was the result when I explained. Not a practising Catholic unfortunately (and doesn’t my generation have to carry the blame for that) she still could see the agenda behind it all. She respected the “official” position when I explained it, and her remark was something like “well, they took vows, didn’t they?”
      As my mother would have said: “you can’t run with the hare and hunt with the hounds”. Too many of the 60s generation need to recognise that before they slide off the scale of popularity-hunting into total irrelevance. Which they largely have, anyway.

  21. I was struck by this, from an article in the Irish Times:

    “Fr. D’Arcy…did not refer to his censure in his Sunday World article yesterday but he said “false obedience” to a senior cleric had led him “astray” at the age of 17.

    [He]…told a story – also recalled in his weekend radio interview – of being ordered to fell 20 cherry trees by the rector at the Graan centre in Enniskillen.”

    “Today I think it’s probably the most serious sin I have committed in my life . . . But as I think of it now I recognise that God was teaching me about the limits to human obedience,” he wrote….”

    Cutting down some trees, under obedience, was ‘the most serious sin”…? This is indicative of how far astray some people have gone in the Church, where ‘the environment’ becomes the central goal of religion.

    Actually, Our Lord did have some words about cutting down trees – but it was about trees that didn’t bear good fruit. Perhaps the Vatican initiative is more in line with Our Lord than some clergy believe?

  22. I noticed you got a plug on about:Did Vatican Two really mean for altars to be destroyed? nice job!

    • Congratulations on the Spirit Daily pick-up, Shane! That site has a huge readership. Hope it was reflected in your stats. Lux non occultetur sed effulgat!

  23. Souls are in danger with these liberal Priests, it is that serious!
    I have a friend who is gay, he told me in confidence that he hates what he is. What did i say to him? i said you can beat this thing, God is with you. Now what if i had said there is nothing wrong with it, God loves you. Then both are souls are in danger, all Liberal priests should do us all a favour and go join a mega protestant church, where everything goes, the kind of church Satan wants the World to follow, without a Eucharist and a bit of disco music to get the demon in you stirred up for the married women in the mini-skirt, we need your kind no more. He insinuated or maybe the press did, that its because of the pedophile scandal that he is being watched, this is more propaganda, this is all diabolical confusion going on here with these priests, they should stick to the teachings of Rome, or leave! Am i being hard, or does the truth hurt, is this a church of sandles and guitars and come-by-ya, or did it have Crusaders willing to die for what right, wholesome, pure, decent, loving?
    Lets get rid of the confusion here, Jesus bless us with the proper discernment in these Evil days!

    Hypocritical Anti-Defamation League Lashes Out At Mel Gibson… Again read more:

  24. Correction on my last statement, i said to this man, you can beat it through confession and Gods grace, Jesus loves you!
    Know what did our Lady of Fatima say about sin, more souls go to hell for sins of the flesh, so it is this serious, we must stick to Gods truth. The Devil is coming with a false love and bliss to many good priests, confusing them about Gods love, most are mislead into thinking God is love, and he will save everyone, they see the good in the sinner to much maybe.
    God is Mercy, but he is coming as Judge for the wicked. It is crucial that everyone says the Rosary in these times, 15 promises will defeat the confusion that can attack everyone, pray Rosary hard or be defeated.
    Lets see what God have to say about these things? I am sorry Shane if this is to much info, but this point has to be drilled over the line!

    The Bible plainly teaches that homosexual conduct is not acceptable to God—it is labeled a detestable thing, “an abomination” and a sinful behavior (see Leviticus 18:22; 1 Timothy 1:9–10). The Apostle Paul warned the morally loose Corinthians, “Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites…will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9–10). Scripture could not be clearer!

    The Bible teaches that homosexuality is an abomination:

    22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

    13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. (Leviticus 20:13)

    Notice what happened in some towns known for their homosexuality between three thousand and four thousand years ago:

    24 Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 So He overthrew those cities, all the plain, all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground. (Genesis 19:24-25)

    Here is part of why that happened:

    7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 7)

    Why mention this example in the 21st century? Because God turned:

    6…the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly (2 Peter 2:6,

    Thus, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah were to serve as an example to those who would live as they did. Including in the 21st century.

    Of course, not everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah were homosexuals as those that strictly practice that could not reproduce. Yet, notice that the destruction that hit their cities destroyed all that were there and notice that something like this is to happen again according to Jesus:

    26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. (Luke 17:26-29) Ave Maria!

  25. GOR, Father D’Arcy’s column last Sunday was approved by the Church-appointed censor. This priest has not been silenced, though he has been censured. (I corrected myself on that point in an earlier comment).

    I didn’t see any sin in what the young Brian D’Arcy did, and I don’t think you did either. But I would wonder about a rector who would use two novices to destroy the work of a third person, an employee who wasn’t consulted. I fail to see how you can jump from this to “‘the environment’ becomes the central goal of religion'” in this context. For some it has, yes. But that is not so here. The point is ‘obedience’ that involved the destruction of the hard work of a paid employee without his knowledge.

    Yesterday, the feast of St Joseph the Worker, we read part of the Creation story and we honoured not only St Joseph but all who work for a living. Objectively, the action of the rector 50 years ago – subjectively it may have been totally different – showed little respect for the work of God or for the work of Charlie Keenan and, by extension, little respect for God the Creator or for Charlie Keenan the man.


  26. Folks I must apologize for not posting a lot recently. I’m bogged down with exams (please pray for me!) and have little free time on my hands. It will be another week before I start posting again. In the meantime please feel free to use this as an open thread, but please be advised that it may take some time for comments to be approved.

  27. I note that Cardinal Brady has issued a fairly damning response to the BBC programme last night:

    I can’t comment on it either way as I was too busy to watch it. Did anyone here see it?

  28. The Thirsty Gargoyle has an excellent post (as always) on this…keep in mind that he wrote this before the aforelinked statement was issued:

  29. Fr. Coyle, I never said Fr. D’Arcy was silenced. When I have used ‘silencings’ it was in quotes and in a general sense about all six priests. I also used the phrase ‘called to order’. My comment was based on the limited quotations in the Irish Times. I have since read Fr. D’Arcy’s article in full and I am even less impressed. Actually, I’m furious.

    What a self-serving piece of drivel! His description of Novitiate – the ‘borrowed clothes’, ‘leaving my family behind’ ‘silence’ and ‘penances’. So what was different for him than the thousands of other Novices in hundreds of Orders who went through a similar regimen? Novitiate is a proving ground – the ‘boot camp’ of religious life – designed to find out if you are called to that life or not. You go into it willingly. No one forces you – and you can leave at any time. I was there too – and I don’t think it scarred me for life. Cry me a river!

    He then defames his superior of that time. Can you say Detraction? Granted he didn’t name him, but from his detailed description it would not be difficult for someone to figure it out. Whatever the motivation of the Rector, it was D’Arcy’s responsibility to obey him. He did and ‘felt good’ at the time. So where is the ‘most serious sin of my life’ in that? But it was ‘destroying God’s gift of beauty…’ There’s the environment piece – which will garner him support from the ‘Greens’ and others whose god is the environment.

    The article appears crafted to evoke sympathy for him. Just like his other affirmation on radio: “I will not stop talking about the sex abuse…” Nice way to divert attention from the real reasons for his censure and sure to garner more public support, given the rampant anti-Church hysteria currently in Ireland.

    It was not his talk about the abuse that bothered me in his articles, but his ongoing criticism of the Church on contraception, celibacy and the ordination of women

    I am not persuaded by his self-depiction as the injured party here. The article was a play for sympathy and manipulative. He’s an experienced journalist and knows which buttons to press to garner support. Silenced? Not by a long shot.

  30. Series on Childrens Rights Part 2 By Kathy Sinnott, the Communist takeover of our schools, read more:

  31. I have noticed that when the rabidly anti Vatican radio station RTE, in its incessant and unqualified defence of Fr.Darcy and his fellow dissenting priests in the ACP,and in it’s relentess criticisism of Vatican responses to the issue of child abuse in this Country never ever mention the elephant in the room, namely, Monsignir Michael Ledwith one time boss in Maynooth Seminary.The damage perpetrated by this ‘Liberal’ to the Church in Ireland is incalculable and the silence by RTE on this subject is disgraceful.We are continually subjected by RTE to incessant complaints about the unfair treatment meted out to dissenting clergy by Vatican authorities, yet this station has never mentioned once, to the best of my knowledge, the disgraceful, and in my opinion criminal, treatment of Fr Gerrard McGinnity, the whistle blower on sexual deviations perpetrated by Ledwith while he was in charge of Maynooth, by the Church authorities in this country.Then again Michael ledwith was a liberal after all.I sometimes wonder if some of the theories and practices of Ledwith are left lingering in Maynooth.

    • 5thmariandogma

      Great comment Padraig,so true about RTE shocking doublestandards, chck out some of these links.
      Workers’ party “freemasonry” infiltrated RTE

      Reviewing the Ryan Report

      RTÉ’s double-standard on Fr Reynolds case

      How the media misrepresents the facts on abuse

      Sex abuse spans spectrum of churches
      James Cobble, executive director of CMR, who oversees the survey, says the data show that child sex-abuse happens broadly across all denominations– and that clergy aren’t the major offenders.

      “The Catholics have gotten all the attention from the media, but this problem is even greater with the Protestant churches simply because of their far larger numbers,” he says.

  32. 5thmariandogma

    I can see now were the church went wrong when i read this from Archbishop Capovilla, is he honouring the Mother of God, the Queen of Heaven’s wish’s, or is he more worried about Protestants feelings? he even mentions good Catholic Communists. If this is not diabolical confusion i am reading here i do not know what is!
    Here is the link:

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